Let's call the Isla Vista killings what they were: misogynist extremism

[Triana]

22. His attitudes SO remind me of Republicans/Teabaggers

That the patriarchy/some man or men should have complete control and dominion over women and that women should have NO choices about whom or whether they have sex or reproduce - men should decide FOR them. Look at the legislation the bastards have been passing all over the country. That's EXACTLY what it seeks to do- control women and deprive them of any choice about their sexuality or reproduction. Same as Elliot Rodger said he felt women should be treated.

I'm reminded me too of that panel that met to discuss whether women ought to get BC under the ACA. NO WOMEN were allowed on the panel.

These attitudes also form the societal basis of our insidious rape culture in the U.S.

What we see here, IMO, is a disturbed young man who was infected by what are essentially the roots of modern patriarchy/misogyny in our country today. Everything he wrote about it reflects what the GOP/Republicans say and do. Some of it sounded to me just like some of our conservative politicians ie: "she should put an aspirin between her legs" and "abortion Barbie".

I think there were three factors which resulted in this gruesome outcome:

1. mental illness
2. easy availability of guns, even for someone who has long since been formally diagnosed with mental illness
3. Insidious misogynist conservative attitudes about women from MRA sites/groups he visited combined with an American society which largely supports those attitudes - from the highest governmental levels.

What the hell should we expect to happen? Duh.

The War on Women has manifested itself once again in gruesome terms (once again) and I'm sure we'll all still be told it "doesn't exist" that there "is no war on women" and that we're "just imagining things".

Bullshit. What we saw from the websites and message boards Elliot visited and participated in (and what we see from any of these MRA groups) is the modern ROOTS of this war. They have pushed themselves deep into a society whose women have repeatedly been told it doesn't exist. Well - THERE it is in all of its hateful, controlling glory. THERE. IT. IS. And women are still suffering and dying in that war at the hands of angry men. And yes I know he killed some males too. But it was because he wanted to control the women and felt entitled to them.

We need to deal with the issue of mental illness.
We need to deal with the issue of insidious gun culture and the fact that guns are easily available to anyone - no matter how deranged or mentally unstable they are.
We need to deal with our misogynist society and our misogynist government.

Otherwise - this is going to happen again. And again. And again. Maybe to someone on DU or someone in their family.

My niece lives in SB. My brother is evidently involved with these MRA people and is very angry towards women as a result. So this situation is really upsetting to me.