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csziggy

(34,189 posts)
3. It depends a lot - they do not have much from Scotland
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 10:34 PM
Jan 2012

And what they do have, is just barebones transcriptions and not scans of the originals. Scotland is a little stingy about sharing those and you pretty much have to order them from the government there.

FamilySearch.org has transcriptions of some of the information, depending on where people are from - and it is free. A lot of what they have online are indexes to stuff you can request sent to the closest Family History Library (LDS) and some of that material does have scans of original documents. There are fees for getting the material to the local library and of course fees for making copies. But you can find a lot just by looking through their online information.

As I said, Scotland is a little sticky, but I did find a lot about my husband's later Scottish relatives from the Scottish census on Ancestry. Unlike the English or Welsh census, all I got were the transcriptions, but that does give a good amount especially if your families stayed together. Some of my Welsh and Yorkshire ancestors were working by the time they were fifteen and no longer living with their families.

The biggest problem is that the British government, including Scotland and Wales, did not do census until 1841. They also did not have comprehensive record keeping of birth, marriages, and deaths until 1837. There are parish records, but they are spotty and how complete they are depends on the individual priests who were keeping the records. Plus, quality of paper, ink and handwriting varied wildly.

If you are really lucky, your ancestors will have been "non-conformists" - Quakers are the best, but many of the other Protestant sects were nearly as good, about record keeping. The ancestors I took back the farthest with original research were early Quaker converts and I have meeting records for them as far back as the mid 1600s in Cheshire.

Check out https://www.familysearch.org/ and see what you can find. Be careful of the family trees there - just like on Ancestry, they are often not accurate and cannot be trusted. At best with online trees, I use them as a resource to locate additional original sources when I have run out of options.

Another free source are local history sites but they are very dependent on volunteers and may not be of any use at all. USGenWeb.com is great in the United States for many places and totally devoid of content for others. Some state archives are great and you can get lots online. For instance, one of the reasons I have so much on my Stewart ancestor is that Chatham County, North Carolina has all their deeds online.

In the UK some counties and parishes have local history organizations but often they charge a membership fee or sell CDs of information as a way to pay for maintaining their records. So far I have not joined any, but I may for some specific areas.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/ is a good place to look up birth, marriage and death records in the UK - they have indexes online. You would have to order copies from the British government, but at least you can get a start. But, as I said, those records only go back to 1837.

Once you use up those resources, if you want, PM me some of your ancestors - I have ancestry.com World, the British equivalent The Genealogist, and a couple of other sources. I can do some quick look ups and see how much there is.

Also, once you get to the point you think you might want to join Ancestry, call them rather than sign up online. If you enroll online, they will put you on automatic renewal. If you call, you can limit the time you are subscribed by setting a cancellation date at the end of your chosen time. Then, if you want to renew, call again and you can negotiate a lower rate, usually.

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We're not sure about our Scottish ancestors csziggy Jan 2012 #1
does ancestry.com help un-complicate these things or not? I really wonder... CTyankee Jan 2012 #2
It depends a lot - they do not have much from Scotland csziggy Jan 2012 #3
Thank you for the info. Very helpful. CTyankee Jan 2012 #5
I've got Williams, but way, way back csziggy Jan 2012 #6
My husband's Scottish Ancestors came long before that. kdmorris Jan 2012 #4
Have you looked at the Virginia State Archives online? csziggy Jan 2012 #7
Thanks for Posting Sherman A1 Jan 2012 #8
THe worst thing is that their links do not allow bookmarking csziggy Jan 2012 #11
Don't know if this would help... pipi_k Mar 2012 #15
Ohhhhhh that is awesome! kdmorris Jan 2012 #9
There were later Samuel Clarks and many other Clarks csziggy Jan 2012 #10
A lot of good information. Thanks. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #30
I'm glad it helped! csziggy May 2012 #32
I went to school with a Samuel Clark in the Mountains of Va. dgibby Mar 2012 #13
WHAT? kdmorris Mar 2012 #19
My Scottish ancestors came prior to about 1750. Not sure how much prior. kestrel91316 Jan 2012 #12
My Scottish ancestors dgibby Mar 2012 #14
I'm not recalling the exact reason why my Scottish family came over The Genealogist Mar 2012 #16
It is interesting. Are your forbears Southerners at all? CTyankee Mar 2012 #17
The Campbell I have is not southern at all as far as I can tell The Genealogist Mar 2012 #18
I don't know about 1790 per se or scots but savannah boomed shortly thereafter. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #52
late to the party ... iverglas May 2012 #20
Thanks. I'm interested in why these Scots went to America, how they secured help to get CTyankee May 2012 #21
googling: scotland emigration 1790 iverglas May 2012 #23
Wow, I'm glad I found you! CTyankee May 2012 #24
almost 100% English iverglas May 2012 #26
oh crap, eh? iverglas May 2012 #22
According to family lore, his wife's name was Sarah... CTyankee May 2012 #25
go play at scotlandspeople! iverglas May 2012 #27
according to tattered family records, his son was named Watt Campbell. Later I was CTyankee May 2012 #28
I wish I knew. I have Scottish ancenstry on my father's side RZM May 2012 #29
A girl once ask me (who was not familiar with the Scot-Irish mix): "What's the difference between AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #31
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lots of good info here--thanks marions ghost Aug 2012 #39
Thanks. I don't understand why we don't have MORE understanding of the Scots experience CTyankee Aug 2012 #40
Somebody could collect some stories of Scottish heritage in America marions ghost Aug 2012 #41
ack CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #42
I have no idea. My mother's mother was a Campbell. She married James Brown in El Paso. CTyankee Sep 2012 #43
Many Campbells and Browns were Indian CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #44
Well, all I have is family lore than our forebear is Alexander Campbell who emigrated to the CTyankee Sep 2012 #45
There was no mention in mine either CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #46
It's really interesting. My son is married to a MacKenzie and somewhere I heard that CTyankee Sep 2012 #47
Some Campbells were indeed Irish CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #48
My father was a Mason, but he was of Welsh heritage, a Williams...can't get more CTyankee Sep 2012 #49
I've got Williams relations too CountAllVotes Sep 2012 #50
I never was really interested in how the Williams side came over. But I should have CTyankee Sep 2012 #51
Thanks for mentioning this -- I hadn't considered the role of the Clearances in my family history htuttle Jun 2013 #53
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