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In reply to the discussion: Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon. [View all]Straw Man
(6,911 posts)137. Stop letting dictionaries do your thinking for you.
        Ignore the syntactic matrix at your peril. Without it, you remain mired in reductive, simplistic thinking.
I first wrote: .. so I believe the hypothesis that declining g.o. rates contributed to declining v-crime rates. 
You are apparently claiming that the above statement is equivalent to this:
"I think that the hypothesis {that declining g.o. rates contributed to declining v-crime rates} may be true."
The first affirms acceptance of the hypothesis as fact. The second indicates that more investigation is necessary. They are clearly different.
Straw man argues 'believe' cannot equate to 'think': 
At long last, sir, have you no shame? Please stop pretending I said anything of the kind. Here is what I said:
Hypotheses are developed from what individuals think may be true. If you think that that phrase is equivalent to believe to be true, then you have a problem with your vocabulary as well as your scientific method.
I'm standing by that. The key word is "may." Once you state that you "believe" a hypothesis, you have reached a point of certainty. If you do so without scientific support, you are engaging in an act of faith.
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                        Questions the left won't discuss about gun control, but should - and soon. [View all]
							EdwardBernays
							Oct 2015
							OP
                        
        
        sure but you would need to PROVE that your law would absolutely improve...
        discntnt_irny_srcsm
        Oct 2015
        #16
      
        
        Yup, Ireland's always been such a peacful, safe place with no violence to speak of
        DonP
        Oct 2015
        #75
      
        
        Your WaPo articles speaks to gun violence, not violence as a whole as GE was speaking.
        Nuclear Unicorn
        Oct 2015
        #54
      
        
        Welcome.  I will respond when I have time to consider your questions thoroughly...
        Eleanors38
        Oct 2015
        #19
      
        
        I would restrict concealed carry permits to trained professionals with a demonstrated need.
        Maedhros
        Oct 2015
        #27
      
        
        I wasn't suggesting that it was. I was simply pointing out that a carrying populace does not
        Kang Colby
        Oct 2015
        #34
      
        
        "Too bad no one but the two of us is reading it." Incorrect, unfortunately for the Stuart heir
        friendly_iconoclast
        Oct 2015
        #160
      
        
        I currently "live with" tens of thousands of alcohol-related deaths a year...
        Eleanors38
        Oct 2015
        #80
      
        
        I should have said that there are no mass killings in other countries like in the US.
        guillaumeb
        Oct 2015
        #104
      
        
        Let's see two threads today about people getting shot by reckless concealed carry
        upaloopa
        Oct 2015
        #127
      
  