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edhopper

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21. some of us try to ascertain

Reply to marylandblue (Reply #19)

Sun Sep 16, 2018, 04:17 PM

Sep 2018

Last edited Sun Sep 16, 2018, 09:22 PM - Edit history (1)

what is objective fact and not just belief and faith.
Some of us realize our experience alone is not a good barometer of what is right.

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Belief vs. Knowledge [View all] MineralMan Sep 2018 OP

Faith zipplewrath Sep 2018 #1

The word "belief" has multiple meanings. MineralMan Sep 2018 #3

Not sure that's what Dick was talking about though zipplewrath Sep 2018 #5

According to one definition knowledge is justified true belief marylandblue Sep 2018 #2

I posted this in the Religion Group, so I'm talking about the MineralMan Sep 2018 #4

My response was in the context of religion as well marylandblue Sep 2018 #6

Communication is always difficult when world views are so far apart. MineralMan Sep 2018 #7

I agree with you that belief has varied interpretations and definitions qazplm135 Sep 2018 #27

Very true Pendrench Sep 2018 #8

Education and personal experience are both a type of evidence marylandblue Sep 2018 #9

Maybe not argue about a personal experience edhopper Sep 2018 #10

Hi edhopper - very good point. Pendrench Sep 2018 #12

Thanks edhopper Sep 2018 #13

You're very welcome. Pendrench Sep 2018 #14

Yes the scientific explanation of the experience can be prosaic marylandblue Sep 2018 #15

True edhopper Sep 2018 #17

Don't we all act according to what we think our experience means? marylandblue Sep 2018 #19

some of us try to ascertain edhopper Sep 2018 #21

That's not an easy thing to do, it doesn't come naturally marylandblue Sep 2018 #24

This edhopper Sep 2018 #25

very, very few of us do that qazplm135 Sep 2018 #28

True edhopper Sep 2018 #30

but studies show qazplm135 Sep 2018 #32

And edhopper Sep 2018 #33

obviously we are talking past each other qazplm135 Sep 2018 #35

Then we just disagree edhopper Sep 2018 #36

I think some are better than others qazplm135 Sep 2018 #40

More's the pity, isn't it? MineralMan Sep 2018 #31

sure anyone operating at the best of their abilities is better than the alternative qazplm135 Sep 2018 #34

As the poster said, clearly, we TRY. MineralMan Sep 2018 #37

I thought qazplm135 Sep 2018 #39

Hi marylandblue - a very good point about scientific evidence. Pendrench Sep 2018 #11

I think we should stop using faith and belief as descriptive words Lordquinton Sep 2018 #16

Great idea, but unlikely to be implemented. MineralMan Sep 2018 #20

Half their arguments rely on semantic chicanery Lordquinton Sep 2018 #22

Or Allah. MineralMan Sep 2018 #23

I don't know what wave you are talking about specifically qazplm135 Sep 2018 #29

Great link.. Permanut Sep 2018 #18

In a universe that defies description... orangecrush Sep 2018 #26

Who says the Universe edhopper Sep 2018 #38

Just my point! orangecrush Sep 2018 #41

But we can edhopper Sep 2018 #42

True orangecrush Sep 2018 #43

true that edhopper Sep 2018 #44

I am not so hopeful... nt uriel1972 Sep 2018 #45