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NJCher

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1. Judge postponed hearing until Friday
Mon Mar 17, 2025, 11:22 PM
Mar 17

She seemed to have a hard time getting an indication of where this case might go, and I did not know if it was the deck she was using or perhaps it was the case itself. Consequently, I did some reading on the topic of the Venezuelans because I had not read much about it until this point.

I think it's the case itself. Here's what I found out.

Tren de Aragua Is a dangerous gang, although some sources state that It is not as much of a problem as this administration is making it out to be.

The judge postponed today's hearing until Friday, and it's because lawyers are preparing their papers for Tuesday filing and a Wednesday hearing. The two groups opposing this are the ACLU and Democracy Forward. I don't know about Democracy Forward, however, I do know that the ACLU does not take a case unless there is something substantial to work with.

What happened is the judge decided to turn this into a class action suit later on Saturday night. When I read that I thought maybe Trump's action backfired on him.

What makes this a messy situation is that by using this war powers law he doesn't have to look at individual situations. The section about the book ,the third card, is what I'm talking about. This gang (as it's being called) is a criminal gang, but the problem becomes that they traffic in people, not necessarily drugs or anything else anymore. They switched to people, from what I can tell in my reading. So consequently some of these people could be the ones who shelled out a lot of money to get this gang to get them into America and they themselves, in fact, are not criminals, or at least drug criminals. They are just people who wanted to live in the United States.

In a previous ruling the Supreme Court said that they are not the gov't entity to investigate each person who was deported. Here is the paragraph to which I refer, which is from the last time they saw a case using this law:

It is not for us to question a belief by the President that enemy aliens who were justifiably deemed fit subjects for internment during active hostilities do not lose their potency for mischief during the period of confusion and conflict which is characteristic of a state of war even when the guns are silent but the peace of Peace has not come,” Justice Felix Frankfurter wrote in the 5-4 decision. “These are matters of political judgment for which judges have neither technical competence nor official responsibility.”


Consequently, I think you can see why she was having difficulty trying to determine an outcome. Just too much up in the air at this point.



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