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Mike 03

(18,585 posts)
5. It's so interesting because this is the premise set out
Fri Mar 21, 2025, 03:59 PM
Mar 2025

in so many of the early Buddhist and Bon teachings (specifically the Vajrayana Dzogchen texts) that talk about the "ground" or "base" of all consciousness (a word the texts themselves avoid) is what they term Rigpa or Primordial Wisdom, which is the enlightened part of an essence that is distinguished by being cognizant awareness (which I think of as consciousness, but advanced Buddhists may make a distinction) . And there are debates on what the third aspect of the "Ground" is, with some texts calling it "unconstrained proliferation" or "spontaneous luminosity", meaning that what appears as matter manifests spontaneously and that there are no limits on what can manifest. (But in eastern thought the absolute goal is to transcend subject/object but that is an entirely different discussion).

Wish I was better at explaining all this, but it is fascinating.

I love that we don't know everything.

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Link to the "Big Think" site. erronis Mar 2025 #1
Seems Faux pas Mar 2025 #2
Disappointing. 10 minutes of words, few facts, no explanation of the "all-pervading force" idea. . . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2025 #3
Annaka is freaking awesome stoned Mar 2025 #4
It's so interesting because this is the premise set out Mike 03 Mar 2025 #5
It's a good explanation. Enlightening! Thanks Easterncedar Mar 2025 #16
Ummm, this has nothing to do with science. New Age woo. Martin68 Mar 2025 #6
Doesn't science start with questions and hypothesis? Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #7
Science starts with science. Not intuitions and feelings. It forms hypotheses based on observed phenomena. This Martin68 Mar 2025 #8
and in turn atoms are composed of sub-atomic particles Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #9
The farther down you break it, the farther you get from consciousness. This is pure woo. Martin68 Mar 2025 #10
Do the leaves on some plants turn toward sunlight? Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #11
Just a note: biochemistry can explain phototropism. Jim__ Mar 2025 #13
That's a clear "no." It is a chemical reaction within chloroplasts. No consciousness is needed, just as we breathe Martin68 Mar 2025 #14
Doesn't the brain operate by chemical reactions? Uncle Joe Mar 2025 #15
Yup. The key point is that consciousness rises out of complexity. Individual atoms are not conscious. Individual neurons Martin68 Mar 2025 #17
Panpsychism? Jim__ Mar 2025 #12
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