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cadoman

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58. tfg beat a lot of very powerful men too

Sat Feb 22, 2025, 01:34 AM

Feb 22

This list is nearly 100% white men and I don't see anyone saying we can't run white men because they lost to him.

Jeb Bush - Former Governor of Florida
Ted Cruz - U.S. Senator from Texas
Marco Rubio - U.S. Senator from Florida
John Kasich - Governor of Ohio
Ben Carson - Former neurosurgeon and Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins
Chris Christie - Governor of New Jersey
Rand Paul - U.S. Senator from Kentucky
Mike Huckabee - Former Governor of Arkansas
Rick Santorum - Former U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania
George Pataki - Former Governor of New York
Rick Perry - Former Governor of Texas
Scott Walker - Governor of Wisconsin
Bobby Jindal - Former Governor of Louisiana
Lindsey Graham - U.S. Senator from South Carolina
Jim Gilmore - Former Governor of Virginia
Ron DeSantis - Governor of Florida
Vivek Ramaswamy - Entrepreneur and wealth management executive
Tim Scott - U.S. Senator from South Carolina
Chris Christie - Former Governor of New Jersey (ran again in 2024)
Mike Pence - Former Vice President of the United States
Perry Johnson - Businessman
Asa Hutchinson - Former Governor of Arkansas
Larry Elder - Radio host and commentator
Ryan Binkley - Pastor and businessman
Doug Burgum - Governor of North Dakota

Differentiate between the rhetoric and the reality: tfg is a generational candidate for the repukes--essentially the Reagan of this century. He's beloved by low intelligence, toxicly masculine voters and he's comparable to Obama in terms of drawing in new voters and the center.

Don't dismiss quality female and non-white candidates because Clinton and Harris lost. They both were in the margin of error of victory. Biden had an easier path to victory because TFG's COVID response tanked the economy and lost the public trust at the worst political moment possible.

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Is there enough energy for Kamala Harris for her to run again? [View all] CTyankee Feb 3 OP

I like her a lot, but it will be many years before a Black woman, or any woman, Ocelot II Feb 3 #1

What I meant was that awful moment in the debate that gave rise to her being our candidate. CTyankee Feb 3 #4

You're assuming there will be an election in four years. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #34

I agree with your analysis. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #28

That was my fear. Squaredeal Feb 6 #29

Agree get the red out Feb 6 #31

I agree. We ran Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Kamala Harris last year and both lost. totodeinhere Feb 6 #39

tfg beat a lot of very powerful men too cadoman Feb 22 #58

I agree EndlessWire Feb 7 #42

Agree, also add that even before the debate, it was likely Biden would lose karynnj Feb 21 #53

No. nt Nanjeanne Feb 3 #2

We typically don't have do-overs. nt Gore1FL Feb 3 #3

then who are our women candidates? Here are two women governors to consider: CTyankee Feb 3 #5

Both would be astoundingly good choices. nt Gore1FL Feb 3 #8

Definitely not Hochal Polybius Feb 5 #17

How come? CTyankee Feb 5 #18

Fairly oe not, she is very unpopular in her home state even among many Democrats totodeinhere Feb 6 #40

I don't believe the polls-- most of them are put out by repugs n/t ailsagirl Feb 20 #48

Nope AltairIV Feb 21 #54

I'm so sorry, but when I see I don't believe the polls, I just quit reading....... a kennedy Feb 22 #66

it has been proven that women cannot win the US Presidency and the price is too high Tumbulu Feb 6 #21

The world? There have been numerous female leaders in other countries. mobeau69 Feb 6 #33

Well, that is so true, but the misogyny is far stronger here Tumbulu Feb 7 #44

Right. We have to clear this hurdle first. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #35

I agree; I just hope that we will have a system to repair.... Tumbulu Feb 7 #43

no. quakerboy Feb 3 #6

Leadership inspires people NotASurfer Feb 3 #7

she seems to have removed herself from the conversation cadoman Feb 4 #11

If she wants to go through a primary, I have no problem with it. Intractable Feb 3 #9

If Kamala Harris wants to run again, I support her and applaud her Quiet Em Feb 4 #10

To Soon Sober Retiree Feb 4 #12

I don't think so. alarimer Feb 4 #13

Not even close. RandomNumbers Feb 4 #14

agree completely nt Tumbulu Feb 6 #22

It's the sad but true reality....for now. yellow dahlia Feb 6 #36

A Republican woman could win andym Feb 7 #45

No. LisaL Feb 4 #15

She could run again, but I don't think she would win the nomination Polybius Feb 5 #16

I read an article last week that indicated . . . peggysue2 Feb 5 #19

I'd be hard pressed to find enthusiasm for her again The Wandering Harper Feb 5 #20

No. PennRalphie Feb 6 #23

Unfortunately, we can't run a woman again Bettie Feb 6 #24

Well, I thought we would never have a black president but we did. Yet there is still a lot of racism still with us. CTyankee Feb 6 #25

At this point, if there is another actual, real election Bettie Feb 6 #37

We're not even in the first month or so of tRUMP's administration. Give it a rest, man, and let us all assimilate / SWBTATTReg Feb 6 #26

I would like to see Kamala Harris run again LetMyPeopleVote Feb 6 #27

Unfortunately, no. (nt) Paladin Feb 6 #30

12 billion dollars, i don't think people would be as interested to donate again. dem4decades Feb 6 #32

A lot is going to depend on what she can do in the next couple years to re establish herself. MichMan Feb 6 #38

Yes, consultants sucked up much of that money. totodeinhere Feb 6 #41

what should she have said on what she would do differently on the economy? CTyankee Feb 20 #47

She also shared in the anger people had at Biden for his decisions regarding Israel/Gaza. SomewhereInTheMiddle Feb 21 #49

No Hangingon Feb 20 #46

We can't run a woman DemonGoddess Feb 21 #50

It's an open primary. Voltaire2 Feb 21 #51

I hate to say it pamdb Feb 21 #52

What is it called when you keep doing the same thing over and over and doc03 Feb 21 #55

Maybe it CAN, if in a different way. If she were VP for a longer period of time and took over early in a male prez's CTyankee Feb 21 #56

There is a perception abroad (not here) that she was a weak candidate. anamnua Feb 21 #57

there is plenty of energy to support a second Harris run, problem is... cadoman Feb 22 #59

No. LisaL Feb 22 #60

I would prefer to see someone else. Borogove Feb 22 #61

She'll have enough energy, as she'll only be 64 Polybius Feb 22 #62

I love Harris, but I think it is a mistake pinkstarburst Feb 22 #63

I'm beginning to think you are right. Do you see another prospective candidate on the horizon? CTyankee Feb 22 #64

There are lots of people I really like pinkstarburst Feb 22 #65

Whitmer might be a good candidate. Midwestern nice. I wonder if she's interested, tho... CTyankee Feb 23 #67