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Dr. Strange

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74. I don't understand what you think this hand count is supposed to do.

Mon Nov 18, 2024, 04:47 PM

14 hrs ago

So you start recounting, and then you come up on one of these bullet ballots: someone voted for Trump and no one/nothing else. Are you going to refuse to count that vote because you don't like what the voter did? Are you going to challenge the ballot, and if so, on what basis?

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About Those Bullet Ballots [View all] gab13by13 16 hrs ago OP

While I would be fine with a hand count audit, your last sentence is incorrect. bearsfootball516 16 hrs ago #1

Yesterday NJCher 15 hrs ago #2

Not down ballots, you mean bullet ballots. gab13by13 15 hrs ago #4

yes NJCher 15 hrs ago #7

The heck is a bullet ballot? onetexan 2 hrs ago #162

didn't he have those numbers in his duty to warn letter? Native 15 hrs ago #28

I also heard about ballots that voted for Trump and then straight Dems. Weird. OMGWTF 14 hrs ago #33

7% of a state's total is a lot more than 2. gab13by13 15 hrs ago #5

Yes it is bearsfootball516 15 hrs ago #8

I think what I read was it only happened at that high percentage in swing states Loupe Garoue 15 hrs ago #15

Right - it is the statistical anomaly that is raising questions. RandomNumbers 11 hrs ago #128

Except it didn't happen at a higher percentage in swing states. onenote 6 hrs ago #160

I agree. And he answered his own question. Are people that stupid? Ray Bruns 15 hrs ago #17

It happens a LOT, it is called undervoting. yellowdogintexas 14 hrs ago #54

Especially Trumpers JMCKUSICK 13 hrs ago #87

Of course they exist. That's not the point. soldierant 12 hrs ago #118

Only that's all BS soandso 11 hrs ago #120

What is your background with software manipulation resulting in data errors? Forget it...... Hope22 11 hrs ago #124

I'm not into arguing soandso 11 hrs ago #131

I listened to this on Thom's show. He said Kamala was the only one who could request a recount rainy 15 hrs ago #3

Provide evidence of claims for your question Sympthsical 15 hrs ago #6

These claims are made based on available statistics Loupe Garoue 15 hrs ago #16

What available statistics? Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #102

how about you show your work NJCher 15 hrs ago #19

A hand recount should be welcomed by all. rubbersole 15 hrs ago #20

⬆⬆⬆THIS⬆⬆⬆ Think. Again. 14 hrs ago #48

I agree JoeBydun 14 hrs ago #64

I agree. Do the hand count!!! bikes and bunnies 13 hrs ago #90

This post should be a thread of its own. Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #34

It is either true or it is not true Cirsium 14 hrs ago #37

It's not true. onenote 14 hrs ago #70

Thanks Cirsium 13 hrs ago #108

It is manipulation Zeitghost 11 hrs ago #121

Desperation. TheKentuckian 10 hrs ago #143

Agreed Cirsium 9 hrs ago #144

Stephen Spoonamore has been doing this for awhile. nbsmom 7 hrs ago #158

It's not true SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #91

Very good nt Cirsium 11 hrs ago #130

How about providing the data to show that it is true? Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #103

Sure Cirsium 13 hrs ago #109

The difference keepthemhonestO 14 hrs ago #46

The Governor of North Carolina was term limited. yellowdogintexas 14 hrs ago #63

My bad, I was thinking that was keepthemhonestO 10 hrs ago #134

NC governor was not getting "ousted" unc70 14 hrs ago #67

The governor in North Carolina was not unpopular and the repub opponent was a all out disaster onenote 12 hrs ago #111

I keep hearing about irregularities SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #112

You keepthemhonestO 10 hrs ago #135

Kinda funny you expect a poster on the web to " show your work " but the government doesn't have to questionseverything 14 hrs ago #50

At this point, I'd like the guy the poster is repeating to show his work Sympthsical 14 hrs ago #58

I actually think the letter signed by buell and experts is more convincing questionseverything 14 hrs ago #61

So why not provide the data for us to see?????????????? Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #104

I showed my work SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #113

The government(s) Zeitghost 11 hrs ago #122

Numbers were posted, true but they were not counted by human beings questionseverything 11 hrs ago #125

We oversea them through State and Local Officials Zeitghost 10 hrs ago #133

To be clear my comments are not about the bullet ballot claim at all questionseverything 10 hrs ago #142

In 2020 the Maga raised hell over "irregularities" and "anomalies" Walleye 15 hrs ago #9

The big difference is they hand counted Georgia questionseverything 14 hrs ago #57

Correct. They went with zero evidence and turned the country and election process on its head. hadEnuf 14 hrs ago #60

I see evidence and I have questions proud patriot 15 hrs ago #10

You are not nuts, this should be a hand count because it is so close and Bluethroughu 15 hrs ago #11

Asking serious questions is good malaise 15 hrs ago #12

You are grieving, not dumb Tweedy 15 hrs ago #13

The solution is easy....count the paper ballots. Hope22 14 hrs ago #29

Have you withdrawn $45,000 from your retirement account and contributed towards a recount? MichMan 14 hrs ago #38

They keepthemhonestO 14 hrs ago #49

The money is gone. The ballots were counted. Harris lost. tritsofme 14 hrs ago #55

They keepthemhonestO 14 hrs ago #62

In states largely run by Democrats...Sometimes an election just doesn't turn out like you hope. tritsofme 13 hrs ago #78

Where did they recount. Hope22 13 hrs ago #80

None of the races are close enough. They don't just do them for fun. tritsofme 13 hrs ago #86

Yep SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #114

No but I did get 10 texts a day along with dozens of calls a day to send money to VP Harris over the last six months or Hope22 13 hrs ago #77

The bullet ballots exist Tweedy 11 hrs ago #123

How is it being determined how many "bullet ballots" were cast. This still sounds like bullshit. onenote 15 hrs ago #14

There you go, ruining a perfectly good CT with facts and logic... Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #32

I know. I had the same problem in 2020 when the trumpers were making unsubstantiated claims. onenote 14 hrs ago #43

I have my own theory: Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #51

Here's what I don't understand. Frank D. Lincoln 11 hrs ago #119

The implicit claim is that the number of split-ticket ballots must 0. Igel 9 hrs ago #149

Not zero Loupe Garoue 8 hrs ago #157

So, where did those Arizona and Nevada percentage numbers come from? MineralMan 15 hrs ago #18

From the publicly available Arizona and Nevada websites. onenote 14 hrs ago #53

Yes. I saw your earlier post. MineralMan 14 hrs ago #68

Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice to hear from those accepting Sponamore's claims. onenote 14 hrs ago #71

I get 2.2% for Arizona Sympthsical 14 hrs ago #73

Here's how I got my result. If my math is off, show me how and I'll correct it. onenote 13 hrs ago #79

You're right, I'm wrong Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #83

Yep. And it's not as if you have to some super genius to do so. onenote 13 hrs ago #92

In post #85 SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #88

I can't replicate any of it Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #93

It can't be replicated SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #96

That's a good question. Why don't they show us the numbers so we know they are real? Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #106

That's not what Occam's Razor says SCantiGOP 15 hrs ago #21

Stupid. Straw Man 15 hrs ago #22

Many voters vote only part of the ballot. MineralMan 15 hrs ago #26

Did the guest mention SickOfTheOnePct 15 hrs ago #23

If there were any good sources for those numbers, MineralMan 15 hrs ago #24

Looking at actual numbers tells a different story SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #85

Keep posting, gab! Kid Berwyn 15 hrs ago #25

It feels like a coup because we lost HereForTheParty 14 hrs ago #41

No, it's because the GOP steals elections. Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #59

I'm sure Biden & Kamala are aware of the Bullet Ballots numbers KS Toronado 15 hrs ago #27

You have misquoted Mr. Occam: Fiendish Thingy 14 hrs ago #30

Look gab, I 100% wish what you, and these others are sayin is true. The simple fact is all we want here is PROOF bluestarone 14 hrs ago #31

No Comparison Speaks2 14 hrs ago #35

What supports this hypothesis that there was cheating. HereForTheParty 14 hrs ago #44

I know this stinks keepthemhonestO 14 hrs ago #36

Good points. Welcome to DU! Doodley 14 hrs ago #66

Was keepthemhonestO 10 hrs ago #140

And how smart would it be of these devious hackers to not add votes in races that would help Trump? EdmondDantes_ 14 hrs ago #39

Hand counts will be coming Viz 14 hrs ago #40

It's not a hand recount MichMan 12 hrs ago #116

Yes I agree.... Viz 14 hrs ago #42

How are they linked to fake ballots? HereForTheParty 11 hrs ago #132

K&R Think. Again. 14 hrs ago #45

A friend of mine was a poll watcher in Grand Rapids... Orange Buffoon 14 hrs ago #47

A pole watcher isn't directly watching how people are voting, right oldmanlynn 14 hrs ago #56

They are not allowed to encroach on the voter's space. yellowdogintexas 14 hrs ago #65

I think she came to that conclusion judging by the minimal time they spent Orange Buffoon 13 hrs ago #84

If Trump and the Republicans did cheat in this way oldmanlynn 14 hrs ago #52

Agreed. Should be investigated. I remain coninced that no way did trump win every swing state legitimately. brush 14 hrs ago #69

Why should it raise eyebrows? SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #115

It's not that complicated. The battleground states are where the deciding Electoral College votes are. brush 11 hrs ago #129

A hand count is not unreasonable wryter2000 14 hrs ago #72

Who is going to pay for it? MichMan 12 hrs ago #117

I don't understand what you think this hand count is supposed to do. Dr. Strange 14 hrs ago #74

Exactly SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #94

Bullet ballots aren't illegal FakeNoose 13 hrs ago #75

Thank-you! Harris MUST take this seriously - everything is on the line! polichick 13 hrs ago #76

On your side all the way! ananda 13 hrs ago #81

the problem with your argument Oliver Bolliver Butt 13 hrs ago #82

Some numbers soandso 13 hrs ago #89

I see different numbers on Daily Kos article MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #139

I would go with Decision Desk soandso 10 hrs ago #141

B T W Mr.Bee 13 hrs ago #95

It's ridiculous SickOfTheOnePct 13 hrs ago #97

I brought that up soandso 13 hrs ago #100

It's because we changed to mail Sympthsical 13 hrs ago #107

Are the permitted to start processing them prior to election day? SickOfTheOnePct 12 hrs ago #110

I don't trust anything that MAY be associated with the con man LilElf70 13 hrs ago #98

Steven Spoonamore on The Thom Hartmann Program Live (11/18/2024) - 02:16:30 - 02:28:45 ConcernedCitizen1776 13 hrs ago #99

Thom Hartmann Live - Spoonamore interview - 11/18/2024 ultralite001 13 hrs ago #101

In Nevada in 2020, the total votes for House Reps was 96.5% of the votes for President; in 2024, 96.1% muriel_volestrangler 13 hrs ago #105

Kinda undercut your argument with that last sentence... krkaufman 11 hrs ago #126

K&R SheltieLover 11 hrs ago #127

Building computer hardware is an entirely Progressive dog 10 hrs ago #136

bullet ballots are bs - they fucking made it too rig to big alright - the biggest rig of all time. Nimble_Idea 10 hrs ago #137

As an election judge in a county that went 82% trump... in 2020 hurple 10 hrs ago #138

Critical JR11 9 hrs ago #145

Whats the harm of doing a hand recount in the swing states. Dump got his, why can't Kamala have hers? Clouds Passing 9 hrs ago #146

It costs millions of dollars for recounts is why. Hand recounts are even more expensive MichMan 9 hrs ago #148

To save our democracy! Like its not worth that!? Clouds Passing 9 hrs ago #150

You need to call the Harris campaign and tell them you are paying for all of it n/t MichMan 8 hrs ago #153

Why such hate MichMan? Clouds Passing 8 hrs ago #154

Because recounts are very expensive and at best only change a few hundred or so votes MichMan 8 hrs ago #155

Great reason to hate Clouds Passing 8 hrs ago #156

Informational Warfare JR11 9 hrs ago #147

I'm all for a recount ... Jeebo 9 hrs ago #151

I agree I took a coding class years ago and this computer tabulation stinks kimbutgar 9 hrs ago #152

Do we know these numbers are correct? garybeck 6 hrs ago #159

If it sounds like a duck... Chadarius 5 hrs ago #161