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Wiz Imp

(6,133 posts)
29. The US is not anything like Canada when it comes to elections
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 12:04 AM
Jul 1

Third parties draw voters from existing voters from one of the 2 parties or from non voters. So the nonvoters for either of the 2 parties don't change the results for those parties when they vote 3rd party. For previous existing voters, third parties generally draw more existing voters from one party or the other. In Musk's case, he's not going to draw many if any Democratic voters. So any existing voters drawn to the third party will come from the Republican Party. This lowers the vote total for Republicans without impacting Democratic votes. The existence of a third party is not going to get additional nonvoters to vote for Republicans - that would make absolutely no sense. So clearly, Musk's third party would effectively throw the election to Democrats because they are drawing pretty much exclusively from Republicans, lowering the Republican vote totals. When things are as close as they were in 2024, it takes relatively few voters to switch their votes from Republican to 3rd party to throw the election to the Democrats.

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Yeah because 3rd parties run by criminally insane billionaires are always a good idea! Initech Jun 30 #1
If it splits the Republican vote it's a great idea. comradebillyboy Jul 1 #31
And certainly smarter Polybius Jul 1 #34
You really think MAGA will support him? boston bean Jun 30 #2
No I don't. Trump will win. That is my point. applegrove Jun 30 #3
I am not following. boston bean Jun 30 #4
37% is Trump's base. Those are winning numbers for an election applegrove Jun 30 #13
Trump will win what? Wiz Imp Jun 30 #11
The mid terms. If Musk starts a third party Republicans applegrove Jun 30 #14
😏🙄Completely Illogical and Downright Wrong Wiz Imp Jun 30 #17
That is not the experience in Canada with multiple parties. applegrove Jun 30 #20
The US is not anything like Canada when it comes to elections Wiz Imp Jul 1 #29
Oh I hope I'm wrong and you are right. My worry is that applegrove Jul 1 #30
Well luckily that's not the right math AZJonnie Jul 1 #35
I think Musk is about to fall on his ass again misanthrope Jul 1 #36
Nope.... usedtobedemgurl Jun 30 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Jun 30 #5
Naderesque quests for glory are the stuff of nightmares that we live Maru Kitteh Jun 30 #9
He's much more likely to hurt Republicans than Democrats, IMO. highplainsdem Jun 30 #6
Right. I say more power to him. Wiz Imp Jun 30 #12
Third Party rso Jun 30 #7
What Ballot? OC375 Jun 30 #10
More like what election. CanonRay Jun 30 #25
I don't see any natural constituency or base for Elon fujiyamasan Jun 30 #15
His constituency would be Rand Paul and Thomas Massie type Republicans Wiz Imp Jun 30 #18
Yes, a small assortment of libertarian whack jobs fujiyamasan Jun 30 #19
Republicans march in lockstep, the magic R Emile Jun 30 #16
FUCK Musk and his BOTHSIDERISM Skittles Jun 30 #21
Do not panic. Big Blue Marble Jun 30 #22
I hope you are correct. applegrove Jun 30 #23
Me, too. Big Blue Marble Jun 30 #24
Well said. H2O Man Jun 30 #27
I don't think H2O Man Jun 30 #26
the new ross perot. mopinko Jul 1 #37
Looney, you and tsf deserve each other. grumpyduck Jul 1 #28
Wrong name for his third party ReRe Jul 1 #32
Your conclusion implies that Musk voters... -misanthroptimist Jul 1 #33
I'm 100% for another right wing party. Please please please. It's about f ing time, the GOP got a taste of its own... themaguffin Jul 1 #38
When your enemies fight with each other, just watch and cheer them on. MineralMan Jul 1 #39
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