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Ms. Toad

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23. I'm not accusing you of being blind or stupid. I am disputing the statement you made that you can track him
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 08:00 PM
Jan 7

through the entire video.

You can track the shooter from the shooting, walking toward the victim's car. He is an ICE agent without a cap.

Then he completely disappears - for at least half of the video. You have no idea where he is, or even if he is still at the scene.

Near the end of the video, you can track an ICE agent walking from the victim's car toward the camera. That ICE agent did not have a cap.

There were dozens of ICE agents in the area (as can be seen by reviewing a number of videos). The early part of the video showed only a half-dozen of them. You have no way of knowing if there were other ICE agents on the scene who were not wearing caps - only that the handful which appeared at the beginning of the video were. Even if every ICE agent on the scene was initially wearing a hat, hats are trivial to remove. In addition, there were no close-ups of the shooter at the beginning of the video. They were all shot from a distance, with so little resolution that not much detail was available. So you have no way of knowing the shooter (in the beginning of the video) is the same agent shown in close-up at the end.

It may be the same video. But, with internet vigilantism alive and well, the consequences of mistakenly identifying the wrong person as the shooter could be disastrous. It is irresponsible to make statements asserting that you can track them through the entire video, when it is impossible to do so with any certainty.

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Bastard murdered the woman. Just shot her point blank. Klarkashton Jan 7 #1
Link doesn't work. Dave Bowman Jan 7 #2
I think the shooter was female. mobeau69 Jan 7 #3
I don't know why you would think that. Wiz Imp Jan 7 #5
I'll watch again. mobeau69 Jan 7 #9
Gnome's doubling down on the lie right now on the tube. mobeau69 Jan 7 #10
No, it looks like a man. Baitball Blogger Jan 7 #16
It was obviously a man obamanut2012 Jan 7 #35
Given the amount (coupled w/ reliability) of CRAP floating around on Facebook stopdiggin Jan 7 #4
Huh? The guy ID'ed on this Facebook post is clearly the murderer. Wiz Imp Jan 7 #6
that is being refuted (as well as questioned?) in places, almost as quickly as it is spreading stopdiggin Jan 7 #11
The video shows it is obviously him. There is only one ICE agent there not wearing a stocking cap. Wiz Imp Jan 7 #12
I'm not making a call one way or the other. I am simply saying that stopdiggin Jan 7 #13
Wow. Isn't it an amazing coincidence that the murderer has now been named Wiz Imp Thursday #38
Thank you for the clarity. John1956PA Jan 7 #15
That is simply not true. Ms. Toad Jan 7 #17
Sheesh. I thought it was obvious that I meant the guy can be tracked trough the entire video. Wiz Imp Jan 7 #18
And how hard is it to remove a stocking cap? Ms. Toad Jan 7 #20
I'm not blind or stupid. You can see his face at every point he is in the video and it is clearly the same person.. Wiz Imp Jan 7 #22
I'm not accusing you of being blind or stupid. I am disputing the statement you made that you can track him Ms. Toad Jan 7 #23
Wow. Isn't it an amazing coincidence that the murderer has now been named Wiz Imp Thursday #37
and your rush to be 'first', and 'cock sure' stopdiggin Thursday #40
Here is a snip I took from the video. The shooter's face is partially seen in the background. John1956PA Jan 7 #27
Distinctive hair. tblue37 Jan 7 #32
Thank you. The idea that you can't clearly say the man being ID'ed as the murderer online Wiz Imp Jan 7 #34
Theres always someone DiverDave Jan 7 #31
Because internet misidentification destroys lives. Ms. Toad Jan 7 #33
His face is being spread all over Facebook. hamsterjill Jan 7 #7
Good Raven123 Jan 7 #29
. How often do we learn a mass murderer started out torturing/killing animals? Well, we are now at the next Hassler Jan 7 #8
There's another pic of him before he puts up his mask, Ilsa Jan 7 #14
Is it this one? Baitball Blogger Jan 7 #19
Yeah, that's the shooter, isnt it? nt Ilsa Jan 7 #21
It's the picture that is being circulated on the streaming services. Baitball Blogger Jan 7 #24
K&R UTUSN Jan 7 #25
The Shooter? 2na fisherman Jan 7 #26
Someone made that with AI Diraven Jan 7 #28
Thanks 2na fisherman Jan 7 #36
And none of them render aid! Amoral bastards! surfered Jan 7 #30
The Minneapolis Star-Tribune has already identified him. valleyrogue Thursday #39
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