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In reply to the discussion: zoomed in slowed down version of ICE shooting (2nd tweet) [View all]EarlG
(23,410 posts)29. My question is why did the officer draw his gun in the first place?
Was there a reason to have a firearm out and pointed at the driver in that situation?
DHS policy "generally" prohibits ICE agents from discharging firearms for the purpose of disabling a moving vehicle. However, the policy includes an exception for when the subject in a moving vehicle is "threatening deadly force" with the vehicle or by other means. This exception states agents should only discharge their firearm when "no other objectively reasonable means of defense is available."
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/can-ice-agents-shoot-moving-vehicles-yes-no
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/can-ice-agents-shoot-moving-vehicles-yes-no
In the amount of time it took him to pull out his weapon, he could have simply stepped to one side and easily avoided the car, which would have been a much more reasonable means of defending himself.
It appears from the videos I've seen that he drew his gun in an effort to stop the vehicle from leaving, not because he thought his life was in danger. Then once the car started moving he fired the gun instead of stepping out of the way. Plus, the second and third shots were through the driver's side window, at which point the officer's life was clearly not in danger. Those last two shots were purely to kill the driver, not for any other reason.
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He had time to step back even further, but went towards the front of the car, gun blazing.
Attilatheblond
Jan 8
#27
If the car is starting forward. Wheels spin. That's only a few seconds until it's over.
Melon
Jan 7
#12
To me it looks like this asshat purposefully stepped in front of the car hoping she tries to drive away
AZJonnie
Jan 8
#23
I am posting for the video, which is zoomed in & slowed down. I knew nothing about the person who posted it,
tblue37
Jan 7
#17
That is the best compilation and assessment I've seen. TY for posting this. n/t
Whiskeytide
Jan 8
#36