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pat_k

(12,782 posts)
39. Yep. All it means is not suicide, accidental, or natural causes
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 02:39 PM
Yesterday

The death was obviously caused by another person.



Expanded on edit. If Mr. Pretti's death isn't charged as, at a minimum, second degree murder, something is seriously wrong with the Hennepin County Attorney's Office,

Criminal Homicide

Murder: Intentional killing of another person with malice aforethought. It is often further classified into degrees:

First-degree murder: Premeditated and deliberate killing.

Second-degree murder: Killing without premeditation but with intent or reckless disregard for human life.

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Manslaughter: Killing without intent, divided into:

Voluntary manslaughter: Killing in the heat of passion, provoked by circumstances.

Involuntary manslaughter: Killing due to reckless or negligent behavior without intent to kill.

2. Justifiable Homicide

Killing that is deemed lawful, such as self-defense, defense of others, or in the line of duty by law enforcement officers when protecting life or property.

3. Excusable Homicide

Killing that occurs without criminal intent or negligence, such as in cases of accidents where the person acted with reasonable care and prudence.

4. Felony Homicide

Killing that occurs during the commission of another felony, even if the death was unintentional. This is often classified as felony murder.

5. Vehicular Homicide

Killing caused by reckless or negligent driving, often considered a separate legal category in many jurisdictions.

6. Negligent Homicide

Killing due to gross negligence, where the person failed to exercise a reasonable standard of care.


https://www.examples.com/mbe/homicide

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War-rooms are going into CYA mode as we speak... Torchlight Monday #1
This doesn't mean what some people think - it's obviously a homicide... Prairie Gates Monday #2
Right. H2O Man Monday #11
Yep. All it means is not suicide, accidental, or natural causes pat_k Yesterday #39
File this under "No shit, Sherlock." nt Wednesdays Monday #3
... orangecrush Monday #9
As others have pointed out, this isn't big news. onenote Monday #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Monday #5
No, it's because a death at the hands of another person is always classified by the ME as a homicide. Ocelot II Monday #6
Exactly - "homicide" isn't the same as "murder" in the eyes of the law FakeNoose Monday #19
Give me a break. NoRethugFriends Monday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chasstev365 Monday #28
Nor have these two NoRethugFriends Monday #29
Renee Good's death was also ruled a homicide sarisataka Monday #33
classified by who? The Feds? Or Minnesota? Or a medical examiner? Takket Monday #7
my first thought as well. nt Javaman Monday #12
In Minnesta, county MEs are the one who make the determination. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #20
DUH................ Lovie777 Monday #8
By who or what ? I mean, we can see that it is. But i'm guessing this was something official by a govt agency or medical JI7 Monday #10
Yes, a link /source would be appreciated. Amaryllis Monday #17
This from ABC News: applegrove Monday #30
THank you Amaryllis Monday #34
This from ABC News: applegrove Monday #31
Good, maybe the cops and judges will finally DO SOMEthING Warpy Monday #13
Why do I feel 2 pardons in the works???? damifino10 Monday #14
You're not the only one. calimary Monday #15
Nope, the perps are Latinos. UTUSN Monday #36
It is pretty f***ing obvious that it was murder and ditto for Renee Good. nt ShazamIam Monday #16
Being classified as a homicide doesn't mean it was murder Kaleva Monday #22
Yes that is obvious. sarisataka Monday #18
Legally homicide is killing one person by another. person. Murder is one person Ping Tung Monday #21
10 bullets in the back seems more like murder to me. patphil Monday #24
I agree with you. I hope they go to trial and the jury agees with us. Ping Tung Monday #37
I will get excited about this . . . AverageOldGuy Monday #23
Yeh. Killing people who kill people sure shows killing is wrong. NoRethugFriends Monday #27
classified by whom? MadameButterfly Monday #25
Applegrove, after reading the comments to your post... 1WorldHope Monday #32
Despite all the nitpicking over the legal meaning of the word "homicide"... llmart Monday #35
Manner of death is: natural cause, accidental, homicide or suicide. LeftInTX Monday #38
I hope the county prosecutor can bring the case locally mdbl Yesterday #40
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