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16. I will never forgive Nader
Thu Feb 26, 2026, 03:51 PM
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Remember that Nader was funded by Karl Rove in 2000 and 2004 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eric-zuesse/ralph-nader-was-indispens_b_4235065.html


Furthermore, Karl Rove and the Republican Party knew this, and so they nurtured and crucially assisted Nader’s campaigns, both in 2000 and in 2004. On 27 October 2000, the AP’s Laura Meckler headlined “GOP Group To Air Pro-Nader TV Ads.” She opened: “Hoping to boost Ralph Nader in states where he is threatening to hurt Al Gore, a Republican group is launching TV ads featuring Nader attacking the vice president [Mr. Gore]. ... ‘Al Gore is suffering from election year delusion if he thinks his record on the environment is anything to be proud of,’ Nader says [in the commercial]. An announcer interjects: ‘What’s Al Gore’s real record?’ Nader says: ‘Eight years of principles betrayed and promises broken.’” Meckler’s report continued: “A spokeswoman for the Green Party nominee said that his campaign had no control over what other organizations do with Nader’s speeches.” Bush’s people - the group sponsoring this particular ad happened to be the Republican Leadership Council - knew exactly what they were doing, even though the liberal suckers who voted so carelessly for Ralph Nader obviously did not. Anyone who drives a car the way those liberal fools voted, faces charges of criminal negligence, at the very least. But this time, the entire nation crashed as a result; not merely a single car.....

On July 9th, the San Francisco Chronicle headlined “GOP Doners Funding Nader: Bush Supporters Give Independent’s Bid a Financial Lift,” and reported that the Nader campaign “has received a recent windfall of contributions from deep-pocketed Republicans with a history of big contributions to the party,” according to “an analysis of federal records.” Perhaps these contributors were Ambassador Egan’s other friends. Mr. Egan’s wife was now listed among the Nader contributors. Another listed was “Nijad Fares, a Houston businessman, who donated $200,000 to the Bush inaugural committee and who donated $2,000 each to the Nader effort and the Bush campaign this year.” Furthermore, Ari Berman reported 7 October 2004 at the Nation, under “Swift Boat Veterans for Nader,” that some major right-wing funders of a Republican smear campaign against Senator John Kerry’s Vietnam service contributed also $13,500 to the Nader campaign, and that “the Republican Party of Michigan gathered ninety percent of Nader’s signatures in their state” (90%!) to place Nader on the ballot so Bush could win that swing state’s 17 electoral votes. Clearly, the word had gone out to Bush’s big contributors: Help Ralphie boy! In fact, on 15 September 2005, John DiStaso of the Manchester Union-Leader, reported that, “A year ago, as the Presidential general election campaign raged in battleground state New Hampshire, consumer advocate Ralph Nader found his way onto the ballot, with the help of veteran Republican strategist David Carney and the Carney-owned Norway Hill Associates consulting firm.”

It was obvious, based upon the 2000 election results, that a dollar contributed to Nader in the 2004 contest would probably be a more effective way to achieve a Bush win against Kerry in the U.S. Presidential election than were perhaps even ten dollars contributed to Bush. This was a way of peeling crucial votes off from Bush’s real opponent - votes that otherwise would have gone to the Democrat. That’s why the smartest Republican money in the 2004 Presidential election was actually going to Nader, even more so than to Bush himself: these indirect Bush contributions provided by far the biggest bang for the right-wing buck.

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Or Al Gore in 2000 for that matter Zambero Thursday #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #3
I will never forgive Nader LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #16
"But her emails!!11" "She got paid to give speeches!!11" "Warmonger" mcar Thursday #2
What does never forgiving get us? Big Blue Marble Thursday #4
I doubt anyone's vote will change because of the OP's sentiment Torchlight Thursday #5
The attitude is wide spread. Big Blue Marble Thursday #6
Nor will ineffectual sanctimony Torchlight Thursday #7
Your comment sounds pretty insulting. Big Blue Marble Thursday #8
Bumper stickers often speak truth too Torchlight Thursday #10
Your insults continue. Big Blue Marble Thursday #12
Obersvations, not insults Torchlight Thursday #13
Do you want to win more votes or play ostrich? N/T Big Blue Marble Thursday #9
If I see a viable plan or policy beyond bumper stickers Torchlight Thursday #11
Sorry that forgiveness is so hard for you. Big Blue Marble Thursday #14
Every time we try to build bridges, they burn them. Aristus 10 hrs ago #32
I'm not buying anything related to people "refusing" to vote for and that contributing to any loss. Chakaconcarne Thursday #15
Weaponizing the word "establishment" really worked! So many moronic excuses not to vote for progress betsuni Thursday #17
Or those that will find a reason to do the same in 28 617Blue Thursday #18
This is what worries me. What will be the 2028 version of "Genocide Joe" and "Killer Kamala?" PeaceWave 22 hrs ago #22
The MAGAZANS. I'm guessing "corporate Democrat" will be the meme. 617Blue 18 hrs ago #25
AIPAC dog whistle is popular, Gaza worked so well it might be back. betsuni 17 hrs ago #26
Not this nonsense, again. n/t Ms. Toad Thursday #19
No kidding nt GenThePerservering 12 hrs ago #28
You can pretty much set your watch by it at this point nt Rob H. 11 hrs ago #31
I feel Almost the same way thought crime Thursday #20
welp BWdem4life 22 hrs ago #21
In any election involving Donald Trump, you have three choices... PeaceWave 22 hrs ago #23
77 million dirtbag Americans voted for Trump, and 10s of millions of flvegan 21 hrs ago #24
How about the Electoral College? Chemical Bill 14 hrs ago #27
Great idea SocialDemocrat61 12 hrs ago #29
Nor will I. B.See 12 hrs ago #30
What about all the people that thought it was more important to have a woman president than defeating fascism? biocube 10 hrs ago #33
Message auto-removed Name removed 10 hrs ago #34
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