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In reply to the discussion: Does anyone care? [View all]

pat_k

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87. As you sort out the complicated feelings, perhaps...
Mon May 4, 2026, 02:03 AM
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... check out some of the groups -- including Jewish groups -- who are lobbying for peace and justice. I've listed a handful of such groups in post 76.

FWIW, you might start with Our Core Story on the IfNotNow site. It sounds to me like the organization was born of struggling with the same questions you are. Excerpts below.

To our beloved Jewish communities:

How are we to find safety?

At this pivotal moment in human history, we come face-to-face with the question our people have confronted for thousands of years.

We have suffered scapegoating, persecution, inquisition, banishment, ghettoization, pogroms — and a shoah. In recent years, we have seen neo-Nazis march through the streets of Charlottesville chanting “Jews will not replace us” and a white nationalist open fire on a synagogue in Pittsburgh one Shabbat morning...

Of course we are afraid. We carry thousands of years of historical trauma in our bones.

But how are we to find safety?

No more empty promises.

In response to that question, political and communal leaders from Europe and the US — some Jewish, most not — have made an empty promise: Jewish safety at the expense of Palestinian safety and freedom. By depicting the Israeli government and military as the representative of all Jews, and Palestinians and those who stand up for their human rights as the great threat facing us, western leaders have evaded accountability for their own antisemitic violence, and exploited our trauma for their own benefit.

For decades, they have used “Jewish safety” as a pretext for land theft, home demolitions, military checkpoints, annexations, trade sieges, night raids, bombing campaigns, and other means of forcibly dominating the Palestinian people — all enabled by endless funding from the US. Palestinians have not known a day of safety or freedom in decades as Israeli bombs massacre elders, parents and children in their homes, blockades starve people, and walls and checkpoints tear families apart.

These actions would be wrong even if they did achieve Jewish safety, but in fact they have not: none of this protected Israelis from the devastating horrors of the Hamas-led attack on October 7, 2023. Nor will safety emerge from the Netanyahu government’s campaign of death and destruction in Gaza, which human rights organizations, international legal experts, and preeminent Jewish Israeli Holocaust scholars consider a genocide — and which has left for dead the remaining Israeli hostages held in Hamas captivity.

Meanwhile, here in the US, leaders have made their own empty promises of safety through repression. According to them, the main danger to US Jews is the movement for Palestinian human rights, which they have tried to crush by smearing advocates as antisemitic — despite the strong Jewish presence among them — passing laws against non-violent boycotts, firing professors, endorsing definitions of antisemitism that prohibit criticism of Israel, and more.

None of this has made us safe...




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Does anyone care? [View all] malaise Sunday OP
This is unacceptable! surfered Sunday #1
I care Roy Rolling Sunday #2
Yes,.. But aren't expressions of concern, caring, and repulsion of the murder of innocent Palestinian children.. magicarpet Sunday #27
I'm 100 % in the same place. Permanut Sunday #60
Perhaps check out my answer to magicarpet pat_k Monday #88
I appreciate your tactful response.. Permanut Monday #90
Enough is enough, stop the hate, and B.See Sunday #62
We need to get louder and more persistent in our opinions and views. magicarpet Sunday #64
Absolutely. B.See Sunday #65
As you sort out the complicated feelings, perhaps... pat_k Monday #87
YEAH, it would be 'safer' to keep one's mouth shut, rather than to say that the Israelis Jack Valentino Monday #91
Yes, lots of people do. But not the ones with power to stop it. LymphocyteLover Sunday #3
The soldier may get some cursory moniss Sunday #4
No words for this. Joinfortmill Sunday #5
I have a few. calimary Sunday #42
;-{) SAVE THE CHILDREN Goonch Sunday #6
Caring is not and has never been reflected in US policies. Passages Sunday #7
We care. The hard right does not. sinkingfeeling Sunday #8
trDUMP appointing the radical extremeist Fascist KkKrishtun Southern Baptist Pastor, Mike Huckabee as,... magicarpet Sunday #31
They don't believe any of that Cirsium Sunday #40
I've said the very same here regarding religion and racism BaronChocula Sunday #43
No,... I think you are right,... magicarpet Sunday #48
Old Testament Cirsium Sunday #53
The New Testaments are way too full of the venom of "Wokeness". magicarpet Sunday #57
You have some good insights into this. lees1975 Sunday #84
That's not a bad analysis. lees1975 Sunday #83
"Slaughter of enemies",.... condoned in the Good Book,...oh boy that sounds like fun. magicarpet Monday #86
Sure. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #9
The sad truth malaise Sunday #16
It's time we as a country take Israel off the pedestal we put them on. KS Toronado Sunday #10
and they couldn't do this without our support MadameButterfly Sunday #18
I perpetually have to explain to people that the Jewish people AllyCat Sunday #28
Agree with you 100% BaronChocula Sunday #45
Not Henry Winkler. Talking about people who practice Judaism AllyCat Monday #89
The problem is that it is Nutty-yahoo, his Likud Party, AIPAC, the ADL and similar groups maxrandb Sunday #61
and there are many Israeli's who don't want to be equated with what Netanyahu MadameButterfly Sunday #72
It doesn't matter what Israelis or Americans "want" maxrandb Sunday #80
Stuff being donein our names MadameButterfly Monday #93
Putin bdamomma Sunday #68
Perhaps Bibi's apologists can assure us that this is all Hamas' fault... Orrex Sunday #11
You know you're an anti-Semite if democrank Sunday #12
Shooting a child in the head for Bettie Sunday #74
We care, but we seem to be in a minority. I used to think that such malevolence niyad Sunday #13
The harshest judgment awaits their future BeneteauBum Sunday #14
Systematic genocide perpetrated by a people who should know better if anyone should. paleotn Sunday #15
THIS malaise Sunday #17
Dusty old books of myth. Perfect description. AllyCat Sunday #30
I believe those "dusty books of myth" Wednesdays Sunday #32
If belief in those dusty,old books are so... relogic Sunday #50
RIGHT? Skittles Sunday #51
Is religion the reason? stage left Sunday #49
Yes. paleotn Sunday #55
The Jews like the Armenians suffered greatly from authoritarians and Fascists having run amok. magicarpet Sunday #56
Israel needs to sit in the corner and think about its behavior Ponietz Sunday #19
Remember Malala? Pakistan girl shot in head by Taliban for going to school. cbabe Sunday #20
Yes, irrational religious extremism is shared across the entire spectrum of religious thought and,... magicarpet Sunday #63
Settlers killed the boy's father in 2019. Kid Berwyn Sunday #21
Or what German soldiers used to do to Jewish kids in Eastern Europe Justice matters. Sunday #37
Breaks my heart, too. Kid Berwyn Sunday #41
I am repulsed by Israel now. Clear-cut ethnic cleansing/genocidal activity jmbar2 Sunday #22
Alas, I wish your first statement were true . . . PhylliPretzel Sunday #24
Yes, Israel has become repulsive. I'll wait for another lecture on how I am anti-Semitic. ratchiweenie Sunday #26
THIS malaise Sunday #29
70 plus % agree with Israel's actions, unfortunately questionseverything Sunday #35
I didn't realize it was that high jmbar2 Sunday #38
I'm a little outside my expertise here but I thought the idea was that they become an oppressor Ilikepurple Sunday #81
You are correct -- you added some nuance that I missed. jmbar2 Monday #85
Thank you for both the initial reference and the follow up application to world events. Ilikepurple Monday #94
I do and it's despicable. 😡 Dave Bowman Sunday #23
Disgusting leftstreet Sunday #25
When does the revulsion reach critical mass? AloeVera Sunday #33
Nailed it malaise Sunday #34
netanfucku need to go to prison w/ all his minions. pansypoo53219 Sunday #36
Many of us do. LoisB Sunday #39
Always makes the John Lennon song "Imagine" pop back into my mind. calimary Sunday #44
Recommended. H2O Man Sunday #46
Great post. I almost missed these gems. AloeVera Sunday #52
Out of the park malaise Sunday #59
Great post. I find it crazy that a Presidential Election that we just had 2 years ago swept it under the rug. Eko Sunday #69
K&R spanone Sunday #70
+ 100 nt cliffside Sunday #79
I care. n/t PatrickforB Sunday #47
yes mike_c Sunday #54
Racist Hatred is the laziest anger in the world. blm Sunday #58
.... and insidiously prevalent. Look at what the USSC just recent did with their racist ruling on the Voting Rights Act. magicarpet Sunday #67
Disgusting The Blue Flower Sunday #66
End the aid. Marcuse Sunday #71
Yes. I have been reprimanded here and elsewhere for saying that Nuttyahoo is acting like Mustache Man. OMGWTF Sunday #73
Right to defend. Has limits chicago guy Sunday #75
Millions care. Citizen lobbyists have an uphill battle, but they've been working for decades. pat_k Sunday #76
Important malaise Sunday #77
I care, in addition Israel has pushed further into Gaza controlling almost 2/3 of Gaza ... cliffside Sunday #78
Been reading aboutnthis malaise Monday #96
Sounds a little like what happens in US schools, or US streets adam_vermont Sunday #82
I posted about it two weeks ago. Such a horror. applegrove Monday #92
Must not be insensitive toward the... republianmushroom Monday #95
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