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31. There are three countries who are
Wed Feb 19, 2025, 02:17 AM
Feb 19

guarantors of Ukraine's security and sovereignty. They guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty and security when they signed the Budapest Memorandum. These countries are: The United States, Great Briton and Russia. Russia has broken the guarantee with the illegal invasion of Ukraine and it appears as though the United States is ready to break its' guarantee. Why would any ally ever trust either party again? This might very well split our alliances.

Another point that I do not see discussed anywhere:

In 1932-33, Russia starved to death (genocided) millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomor. The Holodomor took place primarily in the Donbas region of Ukraine. This is one area of Ukraine Russia presently illegally occupies.

In 1944, the Russians genocided the Crimean Tatars in Crimea. Crimea is also presently illegally occupied by Russia.

When Russia had those areas depopulated of the native population, they then settled those areas with ethnic Russians. In my opinion, giving Russia any or all of those areas is an endorsement of genocide. Why? because throughout Russian history, it never mattered if the government of Russia was Czarist, Soviet or as is today, federated. Russia has always looked upon brutal occupation and depopulation as a means to expand their imperialist ambitions. Just look at the way they have conducted the war against Ukraine, with the hollow, bombed-out, apocalyptic looking cities and towns. Putin then went on to have illegal annexation ceremonies in Russia to somehow try and convince the world that those areas are now part of Russia.

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I am seriously running out of bad words to call this jackwad. Irish_Dem Feb 18 #1
I can help with adjectives vapor2 Feb 18 #17
The lies. C_U_L8R Feb 18 #2
Trump has said some crazy things, but this has to be the craziest. everyonematters Feb 18 #3
There is nothing but lies from these sh*theels. NotHardly Feb 18 #4
After a 4 hour meeting with Russian officials, what did we expect him to say? Native Feb 19 #47
Typical gop tactic. Now they'll keep repeating it. C Moon Feb 18 #5
What the fuck is he doing at Mar a Lardo in the middle of the week? hedda_foil Feb 18 #6
Cheating at golf. MLWR Feb 18 #11
While his flunky cheats at online games RazorbackExpat Feb 19 #39
I should have thought of that! hedda_foil Feb 19 #49
COUNTERING THE PROPAGANDA: SupportSanity Feb 18 #7
Agreed. Having the source important. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 18 #16
Pootie's dummy says what? FakeNoose Feb 18 #8
1984 meets Falconcrest Kid Berwyn Feb 18 #9
Proving once again that his former SoS Rex Tillerson was 100% correct MLWR Feb 18 #10
Hey dumbass, Russia invaded Ukraine, twice tornado34jh Feb 18 #12
Excuse my language, but Putin's Bitch said what? Dan Feb 18 #13
Alt headline: "Trump spews his 800,000th lie" chowder66 Feb 18 #14
The logic of an adjudicated rapist Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 18 #15
He lost touch with reality and he is riding on fantasy and doesn't know the difference. twodogsbarking Feb 18 #18
Trump is an abominable Hefty bag of liquid rhino shit. LudwigPastorius Feb 18 #19
don't disparage rhinos. pig sgit worse. pansypoo53219 Feb 18 #22
Propaganda 101. littlemissmartypants Feb 18 #20
... of the gaslighting variety, i.e. intended to make us think we might be going crazy William Seger Feb 19 #52
Gaslighting is one technique used in IPV (Intimate Partner Violence)... littlemissmartypants Feb 19 #53
I made a mistake but corrected it. Here's the comparison chart. littlemissmartypants Feb 20 #60
Yep, it's the typical DARVO gaslighting radius777 Feb 20 #57
Exactly! Thanks, radius777. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Feb 20 #59
It is time Mrsfiddlegirl Feb 18 #21
He doesn't have the power to end it, DENVERPOPS Feb 18 #23
Boy, that Zelensky is such a card. Did he go up to Buddyzbuddy Feb 19 #24
Trump Blames Ukraine for a War Russia Started--Because He's a Clueless Moron Who Needs to Shut the Hell Up Oberon Vale Feb 19 #25
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Thanks Oberon Vale Feb 19 #43
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Thanks. Oberon Vale Feb 19 #45
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Thank you. Oberon Vale Feb 19 #46
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Agree. Ukraine should've been in NATO a long time ago. radius777 Feb 20 #56
There it is - The Big Lie How will History record it? OAITW r.2.0 Feb 19 #26
And the Jews of Germany and Poland should have never marched to the Concentration Camps.. question everything Feb 19 #28
History is up for a full re-write with these assholes assuming their fascist roles. Evolve Dammit Feb 19 #42
I read something where they said Dan Feb 19 #30
There are three countries who are blue-wave Feb 19 #31
I thought this was Borowitz. SergeStorms Feb 19 #32
"Just look what Zelenskyy made Putin do!" William Seger Feb 19 #48
Lying about who attacked whom is nothing new. Lionel Mandrake Feb 19 #33
Yeah, they did! They said that.... Jack Valentino Feb 19 #35
Gleiwitz JoseBalow Feb 19 #37
UHHHHHH---- oh christ on the mountain, here we go with the Jack Valentino Feb 19 #34
SHAME mahina Feb 19 #36
Will NATO come to the defense of a NATO country that is Mike 03 Feb 19 #40
What a stupid fuck nt sarisataka Feb 19 #50
When did Ukraine invade Russia and start bombing its cities? Ocelot II Feb 19 #51
Another Sewage-Filled LIE from drumphf. SLAVA UKRAINI! 💛💚 electric_blue68 Feb 19 #55
And Poland should NEVER have started a war with Nazi Germany... (SARCASM) /nt artemisia1 Feb 20 #58
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