Israel/Palestine

rjsquirrel

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55. Americans

Wed Mar 2, 2016, 09:02 AM

Mar 2016

across all parties "support" and "believe" in ridiculous things like "God" and aliens.

Most Americans don't pay any attention to what happens in Israel. They just blindly believe whatever their ideological leaders do. This is true left and right by the way. Most Israelis I know find their American "supporters" just as bafflingly stupid and poorly informed as their detractors.

I don't support BDS. And I do support Israel. I also support a Palestinian state. And I realize that slogans and hardcore positions are the enemy of peace. One can be very critical of Israeli policy while still supporting them and without reducing Israelis to a monolithic viewpoint. And one can be very critical of Palestinian (various factions) political tactics without racist indictments of all Palestinians as bad people.

Anyone who knows actual people involved in the ground finds the public debate in the US on all sides to be a joke.

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Americans Support Israel Over Palestinians by more than 4:1 [View all] ericson00 Mar 2016 OP

When the dominant media only present one viewpoint tech3149 Mar 2016 #1

There is more access to pro-Palestinian news sources today than at any time in history oberliner Mar 2016 #4

Some just refuse to accept leftynyc Mar 2016 #6

Our elected Democrats support Israel overwhelmingly too. Coincidence? Not. n/t shira Mar 2016 #40

They're representing their leftynyc Mar 2016 #41

Fact: The American people ARE the Israel Lobby. n/t shira Mar 2016 #42

You are correct but you only see it if you look for it tech3149 Mar 2016 #54

I think more people use Google than read newspapers oberliner Mar 2016 #56

Which cable news station leans pro-Palestinian? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #102

Al Jazeera COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #104

You're aware that Al-Jazeera America shuttered three days ago, right? Scootaloo Apr 2016 #105

I know and it's too bad. But I watched quite a bit of COLGATE4 Apr 2016 #106

No idea oberliner Apr 2016 #107

As a technical point, no Scootaloo Apr 2016 #108

I agree oberliner Apr 2016 #109

Americans have been dummied down yourpaljoey Mar 2016 #2

i support Israel 100% MariaThinks Mar 2016 #3

Me too! grossproffit Mar 2016 #75

Not a surprise leftynyc Mar 2016 #5

Yep. grossproffit Mar 2016 #77

+1 nt PCIntern Mar 2016 #97

+1 King_David Mar 2016 #82

+1 katsy Apr 2016 #101

and as usual what pushes that % so high is older church going republicans azurnoir Mar 2016 #7

It's time for you to face reality leftynyc Mar 2016 #8

Lol the figures are right there for everyone to see azurnoir Mar 2016 #9

LOL - Yes they are leftynyc Mar 2016 #10

yepper 53% of Democrats vs 79% of Republicans azurnoir Mar 2016 #11

And they all get to vote leftynyc Mar 2016 #12

I'd take a look at the numbers that have no opinion azurnoir Mar 2016 #13

You live in a dream world leftynyc Mar 2016 #20

No I do not I live in reality I am a Democrat who does not prize the Republican support of anything azurnoir Mar 2016 #21

Well, then good luck getting leftynyc Mar 2016 #23

Yes , King_David Mar 2016 #18

Nondeed they point to the reason for such overwhelming American support for Israel'/Netanyahu azurnoir Mar 2016 #19

More than double is the amount of Democrats supporting Israel ..... King_David Mar 2016 #28

And majority of Democrats too.... King_David Mar 2016 #14

yep a whooping 53% azurnoir Mar 2016 #15

Much more than double the number of Democrats supporting the Palestinians over the Israelis.... King_David Mar 2016 #16

ya that no opinion is very good for Israel's occupation supporters too azurnoir Mar 2016 #17

Democrats support Israel over Palestinians by a margin of more than double King_David Mar 2016 #24

Shhhh - he doesn't like leftynyc Mar 2016 #22

The Democratic Party must be a major disappointment King_David Mar 2016 #25

But continues to complain leftynyc Mar 2016 #30

If I were a single issue antiZionist or antiIsrael or pro BDS King_David Mar 2016 #35

Yep King_David Mar 2016 #93

don't tell him that if there were a presidential election between ericson00 Mar 2016 #26

They can't even crack 1/4 support leftynyc Mar 2016 #32

I don't care actually but do dream on........... azurnoir Mar 2016 #27

I was just told you're leftynyc Mar 2016 #29

without Republicans it goes like this azurnoir Mar 2016 #31

Uh - no leftynyc Mar 2016 #33

ah so now you mix in mostly who are mostly Libertarian me I was going purely Dems azurnoir Mar 2016 #34

Maybe you're having difficulty reading this poll King_David Mar 2016 #36

no problem what so ever and I'm not the one arguing a few % points either azurnoir Mar 2016 #38

Ha ha ha ha King_David Mar 2016 #39

Kick King_David Mar 2016 #81

this thread breaks I/P rules title of thread doesn't match title of link azurnoir Mar 2016 #84

What the poll shows is that among Democrats King_David Mar 2016 #85

Breaking Bernie again?-perhaps you should take a gander at this thread azurnoir Mar 2016 #86

So what ? Florida Jews too.... King_David Mar 2016 #87

Kick King_David Mar 2016 #88

Same proportions of Jews in Israel as in USA King_David Mar 2016 #92

Kick King_David Mar 2016 #89

Kick King_David Mar 2016 #90

LOL - the numbers for DEMOCRATS leftynyc Mar 2016 #37

lol you seem upset or something fine latch on to each and every % point azurnoir Mar 2016 #44

Of course we don't matter to YOU leftynyc Mar 2016 #45

Well, Mondoweiss claims their movement is getting bigger and BIGGER every day.... shira Mar 2016 #49

LOL leftynyc Mar 2016 #62

who is we ? azurnoir Mar 2016 #61

WE would be the leftynyc Mar 2016 #63

Lol nope not every single day only bi-monthly or so azurnoir Mar 2016 #64

I wonder what percentage of Americans support the settlements in East Jerusalem and the West Bank? Little Tich Mar 2016 #43

Probably pretty small leftynyc Mar 2016 #46

I really hope that the percentage who support the settlements is small, Little Tich Mar 2016 #47

With all due respect leftynyc Mar 2016 #48

I'm well aware that I don't sound too pro-Israel, but I blame the adversarial format of the I/P Little Tich Mar 2016 #65

Fair enough (n/t) leftynyc Mar 2016 #67

"...not supporting the nasty s**t that the PA and especially Hamas is doing either." shira Mar 2016 #68

The PA is deeply corrupt and mistreats its citizens: Little Tich Mar 2016 #69

BDS supports Hamas/Fatah dehumanization of Jews, murdering of Jews... shira Mar 2016 #50

so let me get this straight you claim those that support Palestinians support every little thing the azurnoir Mar 2016 #66

Americans support Donald Trump too rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #51

Really? Do do 54% of Democrats support Trump and 23% do not? King_David Mar 2016 #53

Americans rjsquirrel Mar 2016 #55

Can't see much in your post that I would disagree with. nt King_David Mar 2016 #59

So much for the bullshit claim that young adults 18-29 support Palestinians... shira Mar 2016 #52

I wouldn't be surprised if it was BECAUSE leftynyc Mar 2016 #57

good point. 6chars Mar 2016 #58

Agreed King_David Mar 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Tony_FLADEM Mar 2016 #70

Antebellum southerners probably supported slavery by the same margins or greater Mufaddal Mar 2016 #71

right; the America that elected a racial minority member POTUS twice ericson00 Mar 2016 #72

Based on your response Mufaddal Mar 2016 #74

Jury Results Hazelrah Mar 2016 #73

How nuanced Depaysement Mar 2016 #76

Kick King_David Mar 2016 #78

double kick ericson00 Mar 2016 #79

Hillary to adress APAIC King_David Mar 2016 #80

That'll be interesting leftynyc Mar 2016 #83

Report back to us King_David Mar 2016 #91

And growing... King_David Mar 2016 #94

and it will be more after more people see ericson00 Mar 2016 #95

Sick King_David Mar 2016 #96

Bump to remind Bernie ericson00 Apr 2016 #98

I'll try to explain why these numbers are so skewed to one side Tony_FLADEM Apr 2016 #99

even without the church goes, Israel still wins by RATIOS ericson00 Apr 2016 #100

Perhaps a better question leftynyc Apr 2016 #103

Kick King_David Apr 2016 #110

thanks ericson00 Apr 2016 #111