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usaf-vet

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Fri Mar 21, 2025, 06:14 PM Mar 21

Trump and his threats to Canada. First, let's look at NATO countries and then Article 5. [View all]

Contrary to the delusional person sitting in the Oval Office. The USA-Canadian border is NOT JUST A LINE DRAWN WITH A RULER.

Canada is a NATO country. It was one of the founding members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) when it was established on April 4, 1949.

Current NATO Members (as of March 2025):
There are 32 member countries in NATO:
Founding Members (1949):

Belgium
Canada
Denmark
France
Iceland
Italy
Luxembourg
Netherlands
Norway
Portugal
United Kingdom
United States


Now let's look at NATO Article 5, and its meanings
Purpose of NATO (North Atlantic Treaty Organization):

NATO is a military alliance formed in 1949 to promote:
Collective defense: If one member is attacked, it's considered an attack against all (Article 5).
Peace and security: Particularly in the North Atlantic area.
Democratic values: Promoting cooperation on defense and security to deter conflict.
Crisis management and deterrence against aggressors (originally aimed at countering Soviet expansion during the Cold War).

Key Principle – Article 5:
Invoked only once in NATO's history—after the 9/11 attacks on the United States in 2001.



A likely International scenario that would occur!
If a U.S. President Attempted to Overtake Canada:
This would be extremely serious and unprecedented, and here's what would likely happen:
1. Violation of International Law:
Such an action would violate the United Nations Charter, NATO’s founding treaty, and countless international agreements.
It would be viewed as an act of war and aggression.

2. NATO Crisis – Potential Article 5 Triggered:
Canada, as a NATO member, could invoke Article 5.
Ironically, other NATO members (including European allies) would be obligated to defend Canada—against the U.S.
This would fracture or collapse the alliance unless swift diplomatic action was taken.

3. Internal U.S. Resistance:
The U.S. military, Congress, judiciary, and public would almost certainly oppose such a move.
The military takes an oath to the Constitution, not to a president personally.
High-ranking military officials would likely refuse illegal orders.
The 25th Amendment (removal of a president unfit for office) might be invoked.

4. Global Sanctions and Isolation:
The U.S. would face immediate international backlash, including:
Sanctions
Trade embargoes
Diplomatic isolation
Possibly even expulsion from NATO (though no formal process currently exists for that)

5. Collapse of U.S. Leadership on the World Stage:
It would mark the end of U.S. global credibility.
Other alliances (like the UN, Five Eyes, G7) would be thrown into chaos.


NATO has 32 members here are those members that joined after the original 12 founding members
Greece (1952)
Türkiye (1952)
Germany (1955)
Spain (1982)
Czech Republic (1999)
Hungary (1999)
Poland (1999)
Bulgaria (2004)
Estonia (2004)
Latvia (2004)
Lithuania (2004)
Romania (2004)
Slovakia (2004)
Slovenia (2004)
Albania (2009)
Croatia (2009)
Montenegro (2017)
North Macedonia (2020)
Finland (2023)
Sweden (2024)
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